歌罗西书

这一关系的书信，并到歌罗西书。

Relation between this epistle and that to the Colossians .

而《歌罗西书》的作者不包括这些。

Whereas the writer of Colossians doesn 't include that .

正经中《歌罗西书》为什么排在《以弗所书》后面？

Why does Colossians come after Ephesians in the Canon ?

歌罗西书第三章，第五条和第六条

Colossians chapter 3 , verses 5 and 6 .

你们作丈夫的，要爱你们的妻子，不可苦待他们。《歌罗西书》（基督教）

Husbands love your wives , and do not be harsh with them .

问题5：歌罗西书后两章的主题是什么？

Q.5 What is the theme of the last two chapters on Colossians ?

《歌罗西书》的作者有不同叙述。

The Colossians writer does it a bit differently .

另一主要区别是，《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》，是略高层次的基督论。

Another major difference is Colossians and Ephesians have a slightly higher Christology .

我认为，《歌罗西书》是保罗的一位门徒写的。

What I think is that Colossians was written by one disciple of Paul .

现在争议最大的两封信，是《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》

The two that are the most debated probably now are Colossians and Ephesians .

先看《歌罗西书》中的问题是什么？

Let 's start with Colossians now , what is the issue in Colossians ?

[你们做父亲的，不要惹儿女的气，恐怕他们失了志气。----歌罗西书第三章第二十一节（《圣经.新约》中的一卷）]

Fathers do not embitter your children , or they will become discouraged . Colossians 3:21

大家若以为《歌罗西书》那句长，听听这句话。

Now if you thought that Colossians sentence was long , listen to this one .

歌罗西书和以弗所书已经在家庭中，建立起明确的家长等级关系。

Already in Colossians and Ephesians they set up the household in a clear hierarchical patriarchal situation .

第一，我说过《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》都持实现的末世论；，保罗持未实现的末世论。

Number one ,; I said Colossians and Ephesians both have realized eschatology ; Paul has reserved eschatology .

《以弗所书》是保罗另一门徒所写，用《歌罗西书》和保罗的信为模板。

And Ephesians is written by another disciple of Paul using Colossians and Paul 's letters as models .

我们读到歌罗西书说基督是「一切造物的首生」，这是甚麽意思呢？

We read in Colossians that Christ is " the firstborn over all creation . " What does this mean ?

用的是《以弗所书》或《歌罗西书》的神学论，但并不符合保罗的神学。

They 're using theology from Ephesians perhaps , or from Colossians but it doesn 't really fit Paul 's theology .

我为什么说，《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》不是保罗写的，而是后来保罗的门徒写的？

Why do I say that Colossians and Ephesians were not written by Paul but by a disciple of Paul later ?

《歌罗西书》，将保罗认为将来才会发生的复活，拉到了现在。

Colossians pulls the resurrection , that for Paul is still in the future , and he puts it in the present .

《歌罗西书》中的句子很长，但远没有《以弗所书》句子那样讲究？

If you noticed the Colossians sentence was long but it was not nearly as elaborate as that Ephesians sentence , right ?

在《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》中不是这样，在那里的等级更分明，家长制更明显。

That 's not the way it is in Colossians and Ephesians where it 's much more hierarchical , much more patriarchal .

也有人指出词汇问题，词汇也有很大区别，在《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》中。

Other people could say , well there 's also the vocabulary , the vocabulary is quite a bit different in Colossians and Ephesians .

现在来看《歌罗西书》，翻阅一遍，讨论一下《歌罗西书》有什么问题，这封信是说什么的？

Let 's look at Colossians now and go through it and talk about what 's at issue in Colossians and what is this letter actually about ?

也有人会说，不，不，保罗只是在强调不同的事情，当他写《歌罗西书》时，因为处境不同。

Now other people would say , no , no , no Paul just was emphasizing different things when he wrote Colossians because the situation was different .

问题是作者在《歌罗西书》中宣扬的，并不是保罗的神学，等一下我会讲到。

It 's just that it 's not & what he ends up teaching in Colossians is not exactly Paul 's theology , as I 'll show today .

在我的课堂上，《歌罗西书》则是，保罗门徒用他的观点写作，但句子更讲究，运用不同的写作风格。

Colossians I 'm going to teach is written by one disciple of Paul using his ideas but elaborating them differently and using a very different writing style .

歌罗西书2:3“所积蓄的一切智慧知识，都在他里面藏着。”他就是主耶稣基督。

Colossians 2 ： 3 says that all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden in one person , and that person is the Lord Jesus Christ !

记得吗，上次讲到歌罗西书和以弗所书时，两封信给人的感觉是，死而复生好像已经发生。

Remember how I even talked about with Colossians and Ephesians last time , you had this idea that they almost sound like the resurrection has already taken place .

保罗支持，我们所谓的从属基督论，《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》，认为基督是更丰满的上帝。

So Paul seems to hold what we would call almost a subordinationist form of Christology , whereas Colossians and Ephesians tend to have Christ as more fully God .